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McAlister's Deli planning a Southpoint area location

Another chain restaurant is arriving in the Durham Zone of National Retail Safety. (Don't stray north of I-40, y'all!)

McAlisters_SS_Logo The new arrival this time? McAlister's Deli, which already has a Bull City location at Indigo Corners, the shopping center near New Hope Commons and Patterson Place at the 15-501/Mt. Moriah Rd. intersection.

Now the chain -- which grew from a single converted gas station in Oxford, Mississippi to almost three hundred units nationwide -- has its eyes set on the Streets at Southpoint.

It's opening up a new location at 6807 Fayetteville Rd., in the Renaissance Center shopping plaza across Fayetteville from the mall itself. The new location, which does not appear on the company's web site, appears in a September zoning report by the City noting architectural review for awnings at the site.

Search records suggest it'll be taking the place of S&K Menswear, which liquidated all of its stores in 2009.

The plaza also includes Ruth's Chris, The Melting Pot fondue, Chili's, P.F. Chang's, and Ted's Montana Grill and Moe's Southwest Grill (where an overweening friendliness one suspects must come from some spiked Kool-Aid -- or some bad B-school idea in vogue with too many 2000s entrants. Yes, Cold Stone Creamery, I'm talking about you.) Local eatery Bakehouse Bistro pulled out of the center a couple of years back.

Comments

erin

Yay! I know this is terrible to admit, but I <3 McCalisters, and will be glad to have another Durham option besides the hellish traffic of New Hope Commons.

gonzo

oh good! crappy sandwiches to go with bland steaks, overpriced cheese dip, crappy ribs, crappy burgers, faux adobe, and chinese for white people! (http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1809721)

(apologies to those who like those places. to each his or her own. bleagh.)

Jim

What a waste of blogspace. You could have instead done an article on the fact that King's Sandwich shop is now open on Monday and will be expanding it's hours of operation into the evening. That'd been some useful info for your audience!

Andrew Edmonds

Hey, Jim, write your own effing blog!

It may be a cast-off blog entry for you, but Kevin just gave us the phrase "Durham Zone of National Retail Safety" to complement Jim Wise's geographically-qualified "Greater Southpoint".

Of course, if Kevin had named it the "Durham Megachain Zone", we'd now have a great acronym.

Tina

Come on Kevin! When you and the other Central Durhamites schlep down to Southpoint for your Nordstrom Rack Fix or the REI Members Sale, you can carbo load up on a Spud Max and a superdoper sweet tea! All the while watching Caryites, Orange & Chatham County Rez dropping their sale tax pennies into Durham's coffers.

BTW, Local does not always equal good. Bakehouse Bistro is a great example of that. However, it's replacement, Los Portales, also a local eatery is quite tastee.

So when your down here shopping for the wife's Christmas present remember to bring your tooth brush, because that McAllister Tea will dissolve incisors right out of your head.

R

Where are all the Lawson zombies? Shouldn't they be standing up here for these new chains and vital private sector economic stimulation promising the Triangle more rewarding service industry jobs? Shouldn't they be berating these so-called "UNC liberals in la-la-land" for their snobbish elitist taste?

Gary

Given the everlasting love affair with take-offs on "Soho" (as I hear "NoDo" being mulled for things Central Park,) I suggest "SoFo" for all areas Southpointian.

Of course, I don't know whether Kevin's DuZoNRS is geographically extensible, to, say, the DuZoNRS stretch of Erwin Road around Lasalle St. and Da Boulevard.

GK

bb

i don't think the lawson zombies can keep up with this thread. awesome.

Wesley Hyatt

If Chapel Hill can handle having a McAlister's Deli downtown, there is no reason to think that another one will destroy Durham wherever it is located, IMHO.

KeepDurhamDifferent!

Gary, I like SoFo for all things Southpointian. Even better would be SoFaux.

GreenLantern

"Faux" would best describe the business models of most of the small downtown shops, bars, and food stands that rely on taxpayer-funded historic tax credits, sidewalks, lighting, and other infrastructure improvements just to open the doors for Durham's hippie elites. It seems that every new chain store or restaurant opening up in suburbia threatens their survival, and so the chants and protests rise up from said hippie elites at planning/zoning meetings to shout down the evil money-making, tax-paying, over-consuming, greenhouse gas-belching corporate types in their suits and ties!

I can promise you that most of the people shopping and paying sales taxes at Southpoint have absolutely no desire to venture downtown. Nothing ventured, nothing "lost".

Kevin Davis

Point of order: I actually venture down to Southpointyland -- my own appellation -- for shopping when the need arises. Was there twice last week when I happened to be in the area, in fact.

I can't speak to all readers, some of whom may approach the issue in ways that resemble GL's over-the-top caricature. But when I use phrases like Zone of National Retail Safety, I'm actually needling retailers themselves for not opening in other parts of the Bull City. (It may have sounded like I was referring to shoppers themselves, which was not the intent.)

As I wrote here earlier this year:

"Anyway, the modern wave of Durham retail displacement has seen the rise of New Hope Commons, then Patterson Place, then Indigo Corners.

And it's a perfect intersection to go to if you're looking for a Lonestar Red Robin Carrabba's Panera Jason's Deli Barnes & Noble Best Buy Party City Kohl's Home Depot Verizon Starbucks Walmart OfficeMax Dick's-perience.

Not, mind you, that there's anything wrong with that.

The notion that somehow us downtowners sit around eating pâté and caviar while sipping Chardonnay at James Beard-nominated restaurants whilst we thumb our collective noses at 15-501's retail mall-sprawl is a bit ridiculous.

Hell, I've never had pâté or caviar, and have no idea if either would go well with Chardonnay.

The BCRs aren't adverse at all to a little national retail. We've long liked Panera as a place to go to check email in the mornings over a bagel and coffee. We love downtown restaurants like Tosca and Piazza Italia, but there's times we're in the area and stop at Carrabba's.

And so forth.

No, as much as Durham's a town where local is celebrated -- and rightfully so -- there's always going to be different tastes for different folks. Or different nights of the week.

My concern has long been more about the wisdom of throwing so much chock-a-block in one little corner of town."

Erik Landfried

Lest we forget, it is Southpoint that named their outdoor mall walkway "Main Street" and built much of their mall to resemble the brick warehouses of downtown Durham. Last I checked, we already have a Main Street in Durham and brick warehouses that actually used to be, you know, warehouses. It's hard to get much more "faux" than that.

As an aside, I'm also tired of insinuations that places like Southpoint are the result of a "free market" while the revitalization of downtown Durham is part of some larger socialist agenda. Southpoint would not exist without the extension of I-40. That was a tax-funded policy decision, just like incentives for Greenfire to open a hotel in the SunTrust building are a tax-funded policy decision. There is room for both, but don't pretend that they are fundamentally different.

GreenLantern

Yes, of course I'm needling the elites with an over-the-top caricature (they're fun to write) in response to the perceived contempt for us suburbanites and our provincial shopping and dining habits. I support everything that's going on with downtown revitalization, but I also realize someone has to pay for it, including the sales and property taxes brought in by national retailers and restaurant chains reacting to the demand of a free market. Anything that brings more business, jobs, and choices into the area for people with different tastes is a good thing, because it keeps the economy healthy and diverse.

I often bring up Chapel Hill as an example where elitist planning and narrow-mindedness has restricted the free market and led to homes that are unaffordable, high gas prices, and significant sales tax leakage to Durham county. It has also forced out much of the middle and lower class who can't afford to live there. I don't want to see us become Chapel Hill, but it seems like two of our long-term county commissioners want it that way (re: Glenn School rezoning cases) despite the clear support for change in that area.

By the way, I haven't been to Southpoint in months, and it was just to get to a Target that was closer to my East Durham suburb than the one at SouthSquare. I spend more time downtown and at Northgate than anywhere else. The main reason is just proximity and not refined tastes or some urge to go to Red Robin. The problem is that those of us in East Durham are consistently running into opposition from our cross-town neighbors, no-growth-minded local politicians and planning board members to let us grow as a suburb enough to get the same choices you have at Southpoint or, as a result, to keep us from having to drive to Brier Creek in our polluting SUVs. I hope that as the economy improves, and developers return to the table, we're get more support for the things we value out here in the suburbs in exchange for all the support for the downtown.

The Southpoint mall design seems to be working quite well, even though everyone knows it's faux. It's just an esoteric thing to argue about anyway.

Toastie

Hey, Kevin, I noticed that Boston Market has vanished from Northgate. At the risk of furthering pissing off "Jim" and other foodies, any idea what will be replacing it? I vote for a good bagel place.

gonzo

as i've said before, you want to call me a foodie elitist, come find me at c+h's at northgate when i'm chowing down on fried fish and mac and cheese and say it to my face.

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