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November 10, 2009

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Todd P

Getting almost 500 people to agree on anything is a seemingly impossible task, especially given the apparent level of mistrust by some residents. It seems like there would be a more efficient way to go about killing the 1964 plan.

It is odd that most of NCCU remains under the more restrictive residential zoning while Duke's campus does not. You would think they would have the same zoning classification.

Toby

@Kevin - regarding the 1964 plan, you wrote (and were possibly quoting someone at the meeting): "The plan covers the area just to the south of NCCU between Fayetteville St. and Alston Ave., and gives the City power of eminent domain over the area." Am I correct in thinking this should have been stated as "between Fayetteville St. and NC-55"? S. Alston Ave separates from NC-55 just north of Cecil St, heading in a more easterly direction. Or does the 1964 plan only affect the area north of Cecil?

Erik Landfried

@Toby - I actually wrote this post. That's just what I remember the planner saying...it's possible it's only over to NC-55. I don't think I've seen the exact boundaries yet. Sounds like a total nightmare for the planners. Hopefully they can find another way of getting it off the books.

Toby

This map from the city planning department's website appears to answer both of my questions above:

http://www.durhamnc.gov/departments/planning/pdf/neighborhood_context_map.pdf

According to the map, the 1964 plan covers a large area south and WEST of NCCU between NC-55 on the east, the creek that runs through Elmira Park on the south, and extends as far west at the ATT. It appears to cover several streets that lie to the WEST of Fayetteville, including Columbia Ave, Atlantic St, Red Oak Ave, and Utah Ave. It also seems to encompass properties on the WEST side of Fayetteville as far north as George St.

Little wonder that planner Aaron Cain handled it like a hot potato...

GreenLantern

I'd be curious to hear what the Hesters wanted this time around....

They've often criticized the redevelopment of historic landmarks like West Village and American Tobacco. It's one thing to redevelop these unique properties with taxpayer-supported, city-owned parking decks, or fill up vacant land with new buildings from developers, but it's another thing to expect the government to come in an re-do a tacky shopping center, with its plywood and stucco frontage, because the owners haven't managed their properties well. Even if all they get is an upgrade of Fayetteville Street to the freeway, would it still make any difference? It's never going to look like Brightleaf or Southpoint over there. The beauty parlors and pawn shops fill a need for the community, some good, some not so good, but no one is suggesting to kick anyone out that doesn't fit with the new image. It is what it is.

I don't know if this is what they expect, but everytime I listen to interviews and speeches from Larry, as he sighs disappointedly when developers speak about what they want to do in Durham and how they want to partner with the city, it sounds like he wants another handout. Perhaps it would be a good opportunity to sell out and move on to something with a better vision, rather than constantly complaining about how successful others have been bringing their plans to fruition.

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