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November 11, 2008

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Joshua Allen

I wish Greenfire all the luck in the world. I hope they can continue the momentum of other downtown developers and revitalize the central core of downtown. This is so exciting! I've been waiting for such redevelopment ever since I arrived in Durham 10 years ago. It sounds like the City and the County are making wise decisions with respect to supporting the Greenfire. Our community will gain new jobs and new respect once this is in place.

jenj

Greenfire needs to get whoever is doing their renderings to put some more racial diversity into the mix...

eah919

Just curious: anyone know who the architect is? In all of the stories I have read about Greenfire's various projects, I don't ever remember reading what architect is involved or where they're from.

This will be another great step forward in re-constructing the downtown streetscape. Exciting.

Keep Durham Different!

The market may indeed be horrible for commercial paper (look at GE's short term financing woes), but much less so for commercial real estate ventures. And for muni bonds -- the impending tax hike has kept demand high. All of which underscores the importance of Durham keeping its debt low. Raleigh seems to have fewer problems raising money.

As an urbanist and a real estate investor, I'm excited to see this go forward. As a taxpayer, not so much. Why didn't they just sell the parking deck to GF? I don't know why the city/county is in the parking biz at all, as I think they should be setting a good example by encouraging mass transit. Surely they have enough muscle/money to lease back any spaces they need.

I guess you can make the argument that development incentives are better spent downtown than in creating more surburban sprawl, but that's pretty weak. Especially when the county is just going to knock down more historic buildings to create parking lots (see Gary's coverage at http://endangereddurham.blogspot.com/2008/11/green-building-by-durham-county.html).

Whatever, I'm happy that this will take some pressure off The Scrap Exchange.

Retro Grouch

some good news about what look like impending Greenfire moves but....

How many tens of millions of dollars of city and county budgets are going to be thrown at parking deck after parking deck, before they fix the got dam loop!

and the one way higway thoroughfares ...

These are a MUCH bigger problems, for downtowners, nearby residents, and out of town visitors in having downtown be a viable epicenter of activity than a supposed paranoia over a supposed lack of parking.

I bet in 40 years from now they'll still be talking about funding a feasibility study for the loop, and what to do with the one way state roads and by then these parking decks will be crumbling like stale crackers over potholed roads that still don't have bike lanes or bi-directional traffic.

Frank Hyman

@ R.G.

Man, you are such a grouch ! :-)

Frank Hyman

Bill Kalkhof

In terms of the Loop ----

DDI advocated for, and was successful, in having the City allocate money for a study of changing the Loop in this year's budget. The City has begun the process of studying the Loop conversion by contracting with Kimley-Horn. After Kimley-Horn does its preliminary technical and auto count research, the process will be opened to the public for suggestions.

The process to move from simply talking (or "ranting") about change to actually making it happen is to:

1. Plan for the desired change in the Downtown Master Plan (done)
2. Find the money to begin the process to study the change (done)
3. Delegate the task to appropriate staff and consultants to manage the process and study (done)
4. Invite the public to gather its suggestions and recommendations (to be done)
5. Decide on a plan and its cost (to be done)
6. Find the money to implement the plan (to be done --- in the case of the Loop, probably a bond referendum item)
7. Advocate to get this project to the front of the list of "projects that need to be done" (to be done)
8. Begin construction (to be done)


jp

I'm also curious as to who the architect is...

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