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Wes

You covered a lot of ground in the past, mcdemc. Let's count the incorrect assumptions in the previous post:

1. Children with involved parents will learn regardless of where they attend school. (Really? Even if discipline is a major issue at the school?)
2. I WANT to pay more money for my children's education.
3. Money donated to a public school will be well spent.
4. Private schools are all white.
5. Private schools teach children to abuse prescription and illegal drugs.
6. Friendships made at private schools are superficial.
7. Exposure to diverse populations has intrinsitc value.
8. Children who are not exposed to diverse populations will become bigots.
9. Children who are not exposed to diverse populations cannot think for themselves.

mcdemc

Maybe you missed the sensationalism comment, but nonetheless, let's address these...

1. Children with involved parents will learn regardless of where they attend school. (Really? Even if discipline is a major issue at the school?)
Yes, really.
2. I WANT to pay more money for my children's education.
If you don't want to pay, then don't. Your taxes already fund your child's school to an extent, so why pay more?
3. Money donated to a public school will be well spent.
I can't make any guarantees, but how can you determine any money that you donate to anyone will be well-spent? You can't, but you sure are hopeful when you write that check! Conversely, do you think private school tuitions are well-spent?
4. Private schools are all white.
That whole sensationalism thing...I don't really think this.
5. Private schools teach children to abuse prescription and illegal drugs.
I know the teachers don't teach them this, but the environment sure does at times.
6. Friendships made at private schools are superficial.
Well duh! :)
7. Exposure to diverse populations has intrinsitc value.
You're conversing with people who have diverse opinions. You continue to do so. Is there no value in these diverse opinions? If there is not, then why are you wasting your time? (and ours if you really don't care).
8. Children who are not exposed to diverse populations will become bigots.
Just a trend, not an assumption.
9. Children who are not exposed to diverse populations cannot think for themselves.
I didn't say that. I posed some rhetorical questions to help you ponder the rationale in insulating your children from the community they live in.

Wes

I realized that most of your post was hyperbole. I just enjoy the back and forth. :) One assumption that I do think you're making is that exposure to diverse populations equates to exposure to a diversity of opinions (#7).

Crystal Dreisbach

As a proud North Durham resident, I just want to say how much I love and agree with David Rollins' comment, "I really don't want to live around the kind of person that buys a cheesy house in Hope Valley Farms. I'd rather live around a bunch of nutty, progressive liberal, gay lovin', lacrosse hatin', organic eatin' freaks."

Thanks for the excellent post, Kevin.

Gman

I find it ridiculous that some people here actually believe that people don't even have the right to live in a safe neighborhood. I bet even the most far left liberal green tree hugger would not let their kids walk around some of the neighborhoods that they tout. I live in a SAFE neighborhood. Small children can walk around and be perfectly safe. People who can afford it have a right to live in a safe neighborhood.

Gman

Well said KeepDurhamDifferent!

I teach school and I see on a daily basis what diversity is. It's supposed to be taken for granted that diversity is a good thing, but where is the data to show that going to a largely white school is going to handicap you? We generally here the typical left wing excuse, "in the 21st century we all need to learn to get along with....blah blah blah..My classes are disrupted by minority students on a daily basis and I'm tired of liberals making excuses and telling me that I need to adjust to them.

There is no real world data to support the idea that your life will be better if you live in the utopia of diversity. There is plenty of real world data to show that you are more likely to be a victim of crime if you live in a diverse neighborhood. Terrorist attacks in Israel have dropped by 90% since they started building the wall. People have a right to protect themselves.

KeepDurhamDifferent!

Dude, I'm not sure you got the gist of my comment. I was saying that *I* value diversity for its own sake, regardless of whether you or anyone else considers diversity to be a good thing.

I love to bash liberals as much as the next guy, but in this case I think you're barking up the wrong tree. With regards to being a victim of crime, I guess I have a higher threshold than most people. I went to public school and got used to carrying "mug money" in case I needed it. It's sometimes the price you pay for living in an urban walkable environment, especially if not's gentrified and still has some diversity.

Erik

Gman, EVERYONE has a right to live in a safe neighborhood, not just people who can afford it.

WTF Man?

I didn't know that trolls came out in the winter. I thought they preferred the warm, humid environs of the summertime.

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