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February 11, 2008

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Elizabeth T.

One thing DPS could do is to tell transfer students at Creekside that they will not be allowed to attend the school next fall (this may have already happened). There are several families in my neighborhood whose children attend Creekside even though they don't live in the district.

You say, "And, at the end of the day, DPS has to address an important question: does purchasing a home in a neighborhood guarantee access to a particular school? To my way of thinking, children are entitled to a quality public education, not a quality public education in a particular school." I think this is the rationale that Wake County is using to transfer children all over the place (and to be fair, they really don't have much choice because of the growing school population).

As the parent of a high-strung child, however, I think it really isn't in the best interests of children to be forced to change schools. Kids will adjust to new schools if they have to, it's true, but it creates all sorts of problems at home (extra tantrums, stomach aches, eating and sleeping problems, a diminished interest in learning, etc.). I have a lot of sympathy for people who don't want to put their children through that.

I also understand what the teachers are saying. It can't be fun to work under such crowded conditions. I'm glad I'm not on the school board!

Emily

When my husband and I bought our house in North Durham a few years ago, we weren't looking at resale value and schools with high test scores; we looked for diversity, a sense of community, and a friendly neighborhood. We found that in a small neighborhood off Dearborn, a neighborhood not filled with $200k+ houses or HOAs or any kids that attend private schools. Our son will go to Glenn Elementary School, not the best school in Durham by far, but we're still not moving. I taught high school at a failing school in Vance County. The test scores weren't at AYP levels, but we still offered 10 AP classes that were always full, and one of our students even received a fullride to Harvard. Most students will do well at any school, even a failing one, as long as the parents are involved in their education and make education a priority. Teachers are dedicated at schools everywhere. Rather than making such a fuss about staying at the school they're currently at, why don't parents get involved in their child's not-so-perfect school and make that one great as well? We know, based on this whole Creekside mess, that they have the energy and drive to fight for their school's needs. What Durham needs is that dedication in all schools, not just schools in neighborhoods similar to those in Cary.

Tom B.

The concerns expressed by the two Creekside teachers in the recent Herald-Sun article are valid. I have no doubt that the teachers of Creekside want to provide the best possible educational experience for their students. Having said that, it seems that the root of their concerns has more to do with scaling resources in proportion to classroom space. In expanding the Creekside facilities to accommodate the growing population, it will be necessary to expand staffing and resources accordingly. One art and one AIG teacher may be sufficient for a census of 650 students, but as we approach 1000+, additional teachers, equipment, etc, will be required.

To echo the concerns already voiced by many concerned parents, transferring children from Creekside to other overcrowded schools will only serve to transfer the problems.

Toby

It's interesting to me that this situation seems to be treated as if it were a surprise that there is overcrowding at Creekside, similar to the exceptional regional drought. But there's a big difference: although we rely on nature to supply us enough water, there's only one source of supply (and demand) for schools -- ourselves!

The real question for rapidly expanding areas like southwestern Durham, Wake County, etc., involves planning and financing. After all, if you approve the construction of hundreds or thousands of new houses, is it that hard to estimate the number of new students that will need to be accommodated several years hence?

Dave N.

Have proposed redistricting lines been released by the DPS staff?

Relocated Family

"The data suggest that children from privileged backgrounds perform well in any school -- but parents nationwide, not just in Durham, are very hesitant to send their kids to anything less than the "best performing" school. And most often for parents of means, that school is the neighborhood school, the school around which they patterned their home-buying decision.

As the comments of these parents demonstrate, that's a position that doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon."

I really feel your above comments do not show the entire picture. If parents in Durham, specifically Creekside, were only looking for the "best performing" schools we would be in neighboring Chapel Hill / Carborro or Wake County. Many people who choose this area could have afforded homes in the neighboring districts. Most of us were looking for diversity, balance, and stability for our children when we picked our school and neighborhood. If we all just looked at test scores / school performance we would not be at Creekside. It has an ABC rating of 75%, which is not great compared to neighboring districts.

In Aug 2007 the registrar at Creekside explained to me that at Creekside they try to balance the classes so that no one ethnic or racial group is dominate but instead there is a mix of students. She explained they would never put a Hispanic Boy in a class where he was the only Hispanic Boy. Coming from a school where my child had very little exposure to different races and socio-economic classes, I loved this idea. And still do. My child’s Creekside Class is made up of African American, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Korean, Hispanic, Mexican, and Caucasian kids. This is a an education experience that you will not find at many Durham Public Schools. And the ones that you will find this at are over crowded like Creekside.

In my opinion, that should tell the district something. Parents who come to Durham want a rich cultural experience for their child. It's hard to achieve a rich cultural experience when the majority of the school is the same race or culture. We know this from experience from our previous school in another state.

And let’s face it, the majority of people in the Triangle moved here from somewhere else. Many of us have already put our children through one painful move. We hoped we would find stability in Durham along with diversity. There is much research that points to the fact that children thrive and do better (not just on tests in school but the hard real life tests like staying away from drugs) when they have stable, consistent adults in their lives. The more trusted adults they have the better they can deal with the hard issues in life. If you have family out of state /out of town then school becomes a place of community for you that is even more vital. We Creekside Families found a sense of community here and want to keep that for our children.

Next year the school will be over capacity by more than 300 kids. No one school in South Durham can handle 300 more kids. So what are they going to do? Split these kids up and send a 100 to Parkwood, 100 to Forestview, and 100 to Southwest. This will just further the impact on these kids and families, reducing any sense of community that has been built by these families and lessen the chance these kids will transfer to new schools knowing many kids or recognize any teachers.

Personally, if there was a school in South Durham that had space for all 300 kids then I would be more willing to uproot my child and reestablish a new community yet again. BUT that is not the case.

I admire that you are trying to glean more information by analyzing parent comments on the petition, but as a Creekside Parent, I can tell you that these parents are only listing a small part of their concerns, and maybe not their main concerns for fear of public rebuttal. We each could have blogs full of content if we listed all our concerns, not just for our children or the children at Creekside, but for all the Durham Public School kids.

Lastly, I completely agree that education in this country is not on a level playing field. For those who are concerned about leveling the playing field, contact your local school district. I know Durham Public Schools is in need of adult volunteers at many schools. It's humbling to see how a few hours really do make an impact on a child's life.

Carol

"In my opinion, that should tell the district something. Parents who come to Durham want a rich cultural experience for their child. It's hard to achieve a rich cultural experience when the majority of the school is the same race or culture."

You imply that DPS is deliberately drawing lines to make schools predominantly one race or another. When you look at the demographic breakdown of some of the DPS schools, or the entire system for that matter, you can see the difficulties in achieving an equitable distribution across ethnic groups. When other ethnic groups avoid schools that are 80 or 90% one race, the situation is hopelessly self-perpetuating. DPS could do like Wake and bus kids around at an attempt to break up the ethnicity and/or socio-economic composition of schools, but I think that would just lead to more private school enrollments and an even more demographic disparity than currently exists.

All that being said, I have no answers for DPS or Creekside parents. I think the three neighboring schools mentioned could benefit from the enthusiasm of Creekside parents and students. Some of that parent involvement and passion could go a long way in bringing along neighboring schools and making all of SW Durham a strong zone for elementary education. I can't help but be a bit wistful at the thought.

Relocated Family

“You imply that DPS is deliberately drawing lines to make schools predominantly one race or another.”

No, that is not what I imply. But I do think DPS could do a better job in trying to recreate culturally rich schools in their magnet programs. This could be achieved by weighting lottery applications. This has been done in districts in other parts of the country.

“ I think the three neighboring schools mentioned could benefit from the enthusiasm of Creekside parents and students. Some of that parent involvement and passion could go a long way in bringing along neighboring schools and making all of SW Durham a strong zone for elementary education.”

While I completely agree with this, what about the affect it has on the STUDENTS that are transferred. Not all children are a bundle of resilience. Children need trusted adults that they can go back to and visit when they need an extra adult to hear them out. If they don’t get along with their 5th grade teacher how are they suppose to seek out their Kindergarten Teacher whom they have a special bond if they are at a different school. It’s not just about test scores. It’s about creating a long term safe community for all students. Not just the ones who happen to live closest to a school.

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