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January 28, 2008

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Phil

As a parent of young grade-school kids (who used to go to Creekside... we've since moved out of SoDur), I have been mystified by the whole "good school" concept. What is so attractive about a school that is on its 3rd principal in 3 years & is at least 20% overcrowded and growing (with an addition to provide fewer new classrooms than needed now at least 2 years away)? As you imply, it seems test scores in elementary grades are much more a reflection of the school's population than the quality of education. But don't get me started on a system which already has my 1st-grader fretting about 3rd grade EOGs...

Frankly, its got a lot to do with parents. The parental support (via PTA and other activities) is very good at Creekside. Sadly, it tends to be mostly the white upper-middle-class folks who provide this support - in terms of fundraising & direct involvement in the classroom - even though the school is quite diverse. That gets back to your comments above - for example, in general, the Hispanic population of the school (which largely comes from the complex at Garrett Rd & 15/501) is struggling to keep their head above water and just doesn't have the resources (time, money, transportation) to get involved in their kid's school.

Elizabeth T.

This is such an emotional issue. I would love to see data that shows that graduates of our schools can perform better and lead happier and more (economically) successful lives as a result of all of these tests. What I've seen here in South Durham is that parents on the upper end of the economic spectrum are very nervous about sending their kids to the schools here. Scores aren't everything, but clearly it's not good that 30-40% of the kids at all of these schools are cannot read at grade level or calculate simple math problems. Yikes! Given the choice of the many excellent private schools, Wake County and Orange County nearby, myriad charter schools, and homeschooling, who wants to send their kids to a school where by the fifth grade will be surrounded by kids who can't even perform at grade level?! Unfortunately publishing the scores drives people who have means away, people who could be volunteering in the schools, linking their Harris Teeter VIC cards to their neighborhood school, etc. It's not altogether obvious that the testing helps those kids on the bottom, either.

Durham Public Schools has a lot going for it, and we've made the choice to stay here in the system for now (and are very happy with the choice despite the numerous problems facing the school our child attends), but it's been gut-wrenching. Sadly, the school board fiasco of a few years ago has not been totally forgotten, and I know of at least two or three families who won't even consider DPS because of it.

But on the plus side, most of the schools you mention have incredibly strong administrations, committed teachers, and vibrant PTAs. Their successes are not necessarily measured by test scores and the kids who attend the schools really get to experience racial, ethnic, religious, and economic diversity, something they would be unlikely to experience in any other school setting.

Durham Teacher

I teach in what is considered one of the better DPS schools. I have had conversations with my students about what makes one school "better" than another. If we took the entire student body from the best performing school and switched with the student body from the worst performing school, what would be the effect? Would the performances switch completely? What if we switched all of the teachers? What if we just switched the physical buildings?

I have been teaching for a while now, and I still don't really know what makes one school better than another, but I do know there there are certain schools I feel better about being a part of. I don't really know how to put it all into words, but some schools just feel "right" and some don't. For what it is worth, being at the school I am at now, and being a part of DPS feels "right".

Valerie

Brilliant analysis, Kevin. Don't forget Durham's magnet schools. Many magnet schools have been placed in poorer neighborhoods, with walk zones for kids in those neighborhoods, and attractive programs--and competitive lotteries--for families across Durham, including upper middle class families. This is Durham's "busing" system.

Burton Geo-World F&R=80%
Club Blvd. F&R=48%
Morehead Montessori F&R=24%
RN Harris F&R=71%
Pearson G&T F&R=99% (this number is from greatschools, and seems high enough to be a miscalculation)

South Durham Resident

Thanks for the coverage of this issue. For my neighbors this is a hot topic. Reading the information in your post I see why many of my neighbors have left Durham once their children reached school age. We already had concerns about Creekside (principal changes, overcrowding), but with the potential redistricting we are more worried than ever and are considering the wisdom of remaining in Durham at all. It is sad that the Durham Public Schools can't seem to provide every child with a good education in a safe and nurturing environment -- regardless of their parent's financial situation. For many caring parents this leads them to move to a school district that can provide those things. Although a rational choice (and one we will make I am sure), this just robs the DPS of more good parents and good kids.

Bull City Rising

Thanks for the comments, all, especially those teachers and parents directly in the trenches or with friends/neighbors who are.

South Durham Resident, I just want to clarify your question about DPS' ability to "provide every child with a good education." I'm not sure that they can't -- and I'm not convinced this is a DPS failing.

Is there a school district anywhere in the country with Durham's socioeconomic mix where students are performing better academically? The research I've heard of (through secondary, not primary sources) suggests the correlation is strong between family circumstances and school performance.

Not that the schools can't impact that -- indeed, that's what they're there for -- but I really do wonder if any district has the "secret sauce" for this. I tend to doubt it, but if I'm wrong, let's mimic them.

I'm pretty sure you meant "safe and nurturing" as a combined phrase and not the amalgamation of its parts, but it's also worth pointing out for other readers that Durham's rate of safety/crime incidents on school campuses has in recent years been lower than Wake and the Orange Co. system, though higher than Chapel-Hill Carrboro.

KeepDurhamDifferent!

The "secret sauce" is called busing. Raleigh wins accolades for their socioeconomic diversity, but the redistricting (made worse by rapid growth) is a nightmare.

Valerie has it right. What I foresee is a system similar to New York and Boston, where the local school is hit-or-miss depending on where you live, but there are also plenty of good magnet / exam schools to attract the mindshare of parents who appreciate diversity. And they're free!

If my kid doesn't get into Watts or EK Powe she'll have to go to Club, which is not bad but not great either. I believe in public schools (for the diversity), but like many other parents it'll be "one strike and you're out" to the private schools, Orange Co., etc.

[Obligatory disclaimer about how no good libertarian supports public schools -- if we had a private secular school with real economic diversity (like we had in Cambridge Mass.) we'd probably spend the money.]

LBR

"It is sad that the Durham Public Schools can't seem to provide every child with a good education in a safe and nurturing environment -- regardless of their parent's financial situation."

But if they try to do this, by attempting to populate schools so none of them have 70%+ students coming from low-income situations, people with your viewpoint will leave the district. Unless you can propose a way to overcome the test-score differential between students from lower-income and higher-income families, the "good" schools are always going to be those with a large percentage of students from higher-income backgrounds -- and as long as there are such schools, there will always be schools at the opposite end of the socio-economic spectrum, and those will most likely be the "bad," "unsafe" schools. Kind of a catch, no?

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, so please let me know if I'm way off base, but the end of your remark (the "financial siutation" part) implies to me that you think the schools, or the teachers, are somehow treating kids from low-income families differently than other kids, and thus failing them that way. I just don't see that as the case. If you look at, say, Neal Middle School, is the problem that teachers leave the kids in the lurch because they're poor? Or is it that when you have a high enough concentration of "rough" kids, such that a teacher has to call a police officer into his room 5x a day and occasionally has chairs thrown at him, it can be hard to accomplish a lot (or to get good teachers to stick around).

In the interest of full disclosure, I am married to a DPS teacher, and as such, I know quite a few more of them. All of these people have a passion for what they're doing, and those I've discussed it with have reasons for wanting to teach at schools that aren't predominantly full of rich, white kids. I know I'm generalizing here, but I have a bit more faith in their abilty and drive to teach everyone well than I do in those teachers I've known who really wanted to teach the "best" kids at the "best" schools.

South Durham Resident

To answer your question Kevin, I think that whenever a significant percentage of students at a school cannot read or do math at grade level then those children are not receiving a good education. Since it is DPS' primary job to make sure that all children have a good education, I look at the test scores and conclude that DPS cannot seem to provide every child with a good education. I just don't believe that those children are unteachable unless there is some obvious reason in play such as just learning the language or having a disability that makes it harder for them. (And even in those cases I think the school should usually be able to overcome that eventually.) I don't blame DPS particularly for that failing since I know it is a nationwide problem. I'm also not sure how DPS can provide every child a good education, but until they do better at it parents will continue to consider leaving DPS because they don't want their child to eventually be surrounded by kids that are not performing at grade level (see Elizabeth T.'s post) and teachers that are losing the battle to reverse that.

As for "safe and nurturing", I don't mean just physical safety (DPS does ok on this). I mean the larger issue of whether children are in an environment that allows them to reach their own unique potential beyond just reading and math. The emotional and social component in elementary school can be huge -- does the child have the opportunity to fit in and find friends, do the teachers have the time and interest for a relationship with each child, does the administration respond to parental concerns and a child's special needs, etc. Parents find this out by talking to other parents.

I don't mean to slam DPS. I just point out that sending a child to a given school when you have choices is a carefully weighed decision for parents. Visiting schools, talking to neighbors and friends, and looking at school report cards and using this to make a choice is just part of being your young child's champion in life. For many of us it is nothing more sinister than that.

LBR

The issue here is that when you move to a school with higher test scores, those scores say much, much more about the population attending the school than about the teachers and administrators. You're not finding teachers who have learned some tactic to get low-performing students to pass tests; you're finding a school that has a very small population of those low-performing students to begin with.

Your other arguments (that a "better" school will provide a better emotional/social experience, or that being around the largest percentage of passing students is best) are more subjective, so I'll just note that I'm glad not everyone feels that way.

I don't, personally, think your motives are sinister; however, I think your opinion of what test scores indicate about a school and its teachers is very much off-base.

Bull City Rising

A nice thing about being home from work today is getting to read more of the N&O than I usually do. Good timing -- this interesting op-ed in the N&O is worth a read.

"Over the past three years, we have seen a rise in our school's free and reduced-price lunch population. In the 2004-2005 school year, our F&R population was at 38.8 percent, the school's performance composite test score was at 93 percent and I believed that York was a very healthy school.

In 2006-2007, our F&R population was at 47.7 percent, and the performance composite test score was at 75 percent.

As I read about parents who think that the Wake County Public School System is just about the "numbers," I know that these numbers affect schools. This year our F&R is at 50 percent, and this was the first year I attended a school open house at which there were only five parents in attendance in a classroom of 22-plus students.

This is also the first year that 10 classrooms were without room parents. These numbers are greatly affecting PTA participation and fundraising, and I cannot imagine how they are stressing the faculty and staff.

As a Christian I am called to give a voice to the voiceless. For whatever reason, this F&R population is unable to support the school, i.e., single parents, parents working night shifts or two jobs, or parents without transportation to school events. These "numbers" are children, families and the future of Wake County."

http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/columns/story/911730.html

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