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April 20, 2007

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Steve R

I agree that this seems like a fair deal for all involved, but I hope the City has their eyes wide open when regarding Rothschild's capability. I recently conducted some research for an investment group interested in the various businesses working Downtown which involved speaking to various vendors, clients, employees etc of these companies. Rothschild appears to have little problem acquiring investment dollars for his projects but he is quickly developing a reputation as a sketchy business person and employer. Clients mentioned unresponsiveness to requests, vendors and contractors spoke of delinquent payments and bounced checks and his employee turnover has been 70-80% in the last 12 months. It is not remarkable that a new/small business would have any of these issues, but Rothschild is working on two projects that are much bigger than what he has completed already and it would be very unfortunate for Durham if he fails to deliver.

Michael Bacon

I like the way this deal is structured -- I'm getting more and more convinced that while all things called "incentives" aren't bad things, the giveaway of cash to a company is a mistake.

If I were doing economic development, I would structure incentives almost entirely in the form of tax relief and infrastructure improvements. On the former, as Kevin points out, the city is really just temporarily forgoing cash it wouldn't have had anyway. If done right, the latter is a semi-permanent improvement. If Dell or Google or whoever decides to pick up and move 10 years later, the infrastructre improvements remain. I'd happily spend $2 on improvements instead of $1 on cash incentives.

DTH

According to a more detailed article about this in the News & Observer Rothschild feels the incentives are needed so that he can get a 15% return on his/his backers investments. I have no problem with people making money, but don't think it is the responsibility of Durham taxpayers to help Rothschild realize this profit.

http://www.newsobserver.com/682/story/566288.html

J Reardon

Is no one else tired of hearing about rich white guys asking Durham for help funding their business projects? I am not sure I see how the Heritage Square project will be creating an estimated 1300 jobs(unless they are counting construction, but where will these jobs go when construction is complete?). I can see that it will create space for a bunch of people to work or live, should their company decide to lease this space instead of any of the other available nobody knows how many hundred thousand square feet of commercial property there will be Downtown in two years.

I am sure there will be some new businesses locating in Durham, provided they are incentivized properly. Presumably these companies will require employees to relocate here. Are these new residents going to require 50-80% less in terms of the civic resources that would be there without these tax breaks?

One of the reasons Durham (and the rest of NC) is considered to be a good place to live/do business is because we have lower taxes than much of the rest of the country. I think that is a pretty good incentive to do business here, especially if you can afford to send your kids to a private school.

Perhaps instead of asking for help Rothschild might consider what many smart business people would do when faced with a funding gap; cut back on either your expenses or your expected ROI.

Lucy

It is interesting to note a difference between the N&O and Herald Sun coverage of this story. The Herald Sun states that Scientific Properties needs an additional $6.2 million "from an as-yet unidentified source" to make this work. The N&O points out that Scientific Properties expects Durham County to cover this, but does not detail if this will be cash, tax concessions or something else. So the city/county donation will likely be $12-$13 million.

Assuming this all is approved. It is also interesting to note that Scientific Properties recently hired Don Moffitt, who is Chairman of The Durham Planning Commission. While having the DPC Chair on staff might not get you as many favors as, say, having someone like Durham's Mayor working for your property development company. But it probably does make dealing with the city a bit easier.

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